Public good research no longer valued? Overshadowing Gondwana Link and Great Eastern Ranges wonderfully productive visit to CSIRO’s Black Mountain facility was the widespread concern about ongoing redundancy’s and their impact on the ‘public good’ work that CSIRO has a global reputation for. While announcement of major redundancies amongst climate change scientists has hit the media, there has also been steady attrition underway across many of the other Divisions, most particularly their hard hit ecologists. Staff meetings on the impact of the redundancies were happening while we were at the Black Mountain Laboratory, and the impact on staff morale was pretty noticeable, even in the canteen. Our countries scientists deserve much better than this!